You'd have more options if you were going with a standard length tub, but there's the Archer, too, as kali noted. I was thinking it was the front finished side. I honestly had not thought of the tile flange issue.
I was also hoping to do either a drop in or undermount that has a wall on 3 sides, but I really wanted the front to be tiled the same as the walls it's not a large room. Are you saying it's not possible, not a good idea, or has to be done carefully? I once did this. We dropped the tub into a plywood deck, then built up the deck with I think wonder board to match the height of the tub.
Then used a liquid membrane waterproofing system to go from the middle if the tub edge and up the wall. Remark, the tub had a flat top and was suitable for both drop in and undermount. Then we added a concrete but any stone would do of course countertop over that. I loved the clean lines of an undermount tub, matching the undermount sink. I have since moved and hate that my current tub is drop in with the edge higher than the deck.
So hard to clean, and it can't double as a shower. If you have a deck, then water won't drain back into the tub. That water has to go somewhere. They have the integral tile flange that allows water that might hit the wall to drain back into the tub rather than go behind your walls or out onto the floor. Or budget for a tearout due to moisture problems at some point in the future. It only really matters if you're using it as a shower.
You could certainly put a drop in or an undermount tub in an alcove situation because water is not going to get everywhere or, for normal bathers, overflow during a bath.
But when you shower, water goes everywhere. The built-in tile flanges will help dramatically because you can get the look of an undermount not so much a drop in and then tile up using the flange to built a small deck in the front or also the sides and back and then tile straight up the wall on the sides and back. Or you could do what I mentioned above and did myself, which is get an alcove tub with a skirt on one or more sides and flanges on the others where you'd want tile.
The open sides would need a shower curtain or glass panels. Height does start to become a problem, too, when thinking about showering in deep tubs, so keep that in mind, too. Here's what I did, but I'm not using this as a shower. But I didn't want to spend the money, and it would have forced me to install the pump for the airbath remotely in my linen closet--more expense there, too. Our room will have a shower that you walk through with the tub on the far side next to the window.
One remaining question: are there alcove tubs with the flange but without the "front"? I want to tile the front of the tub. Or would a drop-in or undermount work OK in this installation? I'm looking at the Americh Madison at the moment. Just depends on how much you want to spend and what style you're looking for. And here's an under mount.. I've asked around on Houzz and the builders said that they used a water proofing membrane all the way down to the tub then affixed it to the tub so that water that gets behind the tile runs down the membrane and into the tub.
I think you'd be able to do this, just get a pro. Kevin MP can you post a pic or email me of how you treated the left side of your vanity against the paneling? It looks like it just blends in from another post but I can't tell in that pic.. Can you take a head on shot of the left side of you vanity and a close up? PS you're bathroom is awesome!
My email; kali gmail. My contractor installed the wainscoting first and then set the vanity in with the exception of one piece of cove moulding by the left side backsplash return, which was installed at the end after the counter top had been installed.
I ordered an extra high backsplash 5. And it will have water problems if installed like that. The deck will allow water to spill onto the floor, and the interface of the deck and wall will have the caulk degrade and leak. I am now very committed to installing a drop in tub in a three wall application. I too, like most others decided on this so I could tile the front.
When I started thinking about the waterproofing in a little more detail it became apparent it was going to be a problem. Install small back stop on inside of framing to ensure no water can get to the inside of the framing.
Place backer board and install Kerdi from Back Stop, over the horizontal piece and into the vertical. What about the floor where the tub deck spills all of the water onto it? You gonna waterproof that to te tub and create a wet room? Just to avoid buying the correct product in the first place?
We used a kohler archer that has sloped edges towards the tub and has a small lip about. Had no issues so far and the only water that gets on the floor is when someone takes the curtain out of the tub and it drips fown the floor. I don't see how water is going to spill on the floor if u have a curtain or glass walls. Same as any other tub really. So, what is the proper tub to use for an alcove with shower? Cant seem to find this combo.
This thread has continued for a long time and the person first seeking advice is probably done with their remodel. With that said we just stripped out a bathroom to completly remodel. It was a bathroom, untouched except paint and some new fixtures. When we ripped everything out there was no water damage at all to the area except from the leaking faucet valve.
Here is a picture taken right before demolition. Very dated and hideous but in great shape. PS this set up used an extra long shower curtain. Excuse my ignorance, but if we put a drop in tub in an alcove, what creates the vertical "wall" from the one open end of the tub to the floor where the skirt would be in an alcove tub. Thank you. Has anyone found a good solution to this? I'm looking to do the same Indem Sie weiterhin auf der Website surfen bzw.
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Like 4 Save. Sort by: Oldest. Newest Oldest. Like 1 Save. For a child's bath in a basement, I would put in an acrylic unit. Easier to clean and can be replaced once he is grown and gone. Kohler Bellwether bath tub or drop in bath tub Q. Most three sided tubs will have a tile flange raising upwards from those three sides.
That flange needs to be covered, or it will look pretty strange. That means building a small wall down on that end of the tub that comes up and wraps over the tile flange with tile. Maybe cap it off with similar material as your countertop.
Could be a nice place to set a book or glass of wine will in the tub. If you don't want to build that short wall, take a look at other tubs that have an end. I believe Oceana Bathtubs has a couple. Thanks for your input acm. The alcove tub is a left drain. The plumbing access panel is inside an adjoining bedroom's closet.
The access panel in debate is the one for the tub's air blower, which is located under the tub's back rest right side of tub. This side of the tub is against an outside wall so the only place we can place an access panel for the blower is in the tub skirt unless remote mounting. Some modern designs use two joining walls and a large window for a more airy feel to the space.
The alcove bathtub is highly efficient and offers all the comforts of a regular bathtub. Its space-saving design allows you to easily reach all its surfaces for easier maintenance and deep cleaning. This particular bathtub is good for people who generally find it hard to get into and out of a tub. Some attachments and features have been added to the alcove bathtub to improve its functionality. An alcove bathtub can be used as a regular tub , but some models come fitted with powered jets and offer a more therapeutic, relaxing bathing experience.
Some alcove tubs are deeper than others, which can be great for enhanced muscle relaxation. A shower attachment can be fitted on the wall above the bathtub, which gives the tub a dual-purpose function. This allows the alcove tub to be used as a bath and a shower. A shower curtain or sliding door can be installed to provide privacy and to build up the heat for a steam bath. Most alcove bathtubs are constructed from acrylic, fiberglass, enameled steel, stone resin, or cast iron.
Fiberglass is the cheapest material available. It is a porous material, cannot withstand heavy impacts, and chips easily. It will become unstable over time, lowering its lifespan. One benefit is that fiberglass is molded with a gel-coat resin. Some alcove bathtubs are reinforced with vacuum sheets of acrylic. This material makes the bathtub tougher. Because acrylic does not absorb water, it is a naturally mildew-resistant bathtub material.
However, it can discolor over time. If you find yourself debating between an acrylic vs porcelain tub, definitely check out this post. Also called porcelain steel, enameled steel is an inexpensive and common bathtub material. Made from thin sheets of steel and coated with a layer of porcelain enamel, this material retains its gloss for a very long time. Durable and very easy to clean, enameled steel is resistant to most common household chemicals. Although heavier than fiberglass or acrylic, this material can rust and will chip from heavy impacts.
This post really will help you make the choice between a porcelain-enameled steel vs acrylic tub. This is a higher-end material when compared to fiberglass and acrylic and is a great deal more expensive than both of them. Cast iron bathtubs are created by pouring molten iron into a mold, allowing it to set, and then coating the tub with a thick layer of enamel. Cast iron is easy to clean, retains heat, is resistant to chipping, denting, and scratching, making this tub incredibly durable.
If the idea of having a cast iron tub in your bathroom appeals to you, you need to install joists in your bathroom floor to support the additional weight of the tub. Read this post for a more in-depth look at the pros and cons of various bathtub materials. Alcove bathtubs are almost always rectangular and m any standard bathrooms are designed for alcove bathtub installations.
The three walls or three wall type setup is designed with the dimensions of a standard alcove tub. The main reason people choose an alcove tub is to maximize the available space in the bathroom. I like the alcove bathtub because of:.
Alcove bathtubs might not be suitable for everyone. P roblems with alcove bathtubs are :. You will easily be able to install it into a standard alcove space. A drop-in bathtub has no finished sides. Instead, it is a tub that can be dropped into a fixed structure, in any space, anywhere.
In terms of design, this allows the drop-in tub to take center stage. The drop-in tub features a rim around the top of the bathtub. Once the bathtub is fitted into the deck, only the rim and interior of the bathtub are visible. Drop-in bathtubs are available in a variety of shapes and sizes. Because they can be built along a wall, incorporated into an alcove, or can be freestanding bathtubs, you have greater freedom when it comes to choosing tub faucets and fixtures.
Drop-in bathtubs feature a raised rim over a surround, making them excellent for keeping water inside the tub. Your bathing and relaxing experience can be enhanced by adding jets to the drop-in bathtub for a multisensory experience. There are other features that come with some drop-in bathtubs to help you to relax:. Drop-in bathtubs are constructed from a variety of materials, mainly fiberglass, acrylic, and porcelain-enameled steel.
An affordable bathtub material option, fiberglass tubs are less durable than most others, as the surface can crack and scratch easily. However, fiberglass bathtubs are easy to install and are easy to clean and maintain.
Bathtubs made from acrylic are lighter than other bathtub options and are non-porous. This material retains heat for more extended periods than fiberglass, so you can enjoy a nice hot bath for longer!
Scratches and stains in the bathtub can usually be removed by buffing with toothpaste or baking soda, making acrylic bathtubs easy to maintain. Porcelain bathtubs are heavier than acrylic bathtubs and are a popular bathtub option.
Resistant to scratching, porcelain tubs can last decades and are great for retaining heat. Also, they tend to fill quietly. You can find drop-in tubs in a variety of shapes including circles and ovals.
However, the average depth of a rectangular drop-in bathtub is 16 — 18 inches. And the average dimensions of a rectangular drop-in bathtub are:. A drop-in bathtub is popular for aesthetic reasons, as it can be a focal point in a room and installed wherever you have space.
A drop-in bathtub can be challenging to install without the services of a professional. These tubs require a separate structure to be built into which the bathtub is dropped. So in reality this tub doubles as both a drop-in and an alcove. This is a super comfortable tub and great value for the money.
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